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Part 4


Fall of the Old Testament


Now, Lam. 2:11-this verse shows that the children of the OT faint in their streets. Streets and ‘city’ represent the way of the OT, not literal streets and cities. It means the old covenant; just as the tree of life being in the midst of the ‘street’ of New Jerusalem means the way of life in the NT. The fact of their ‘swooning’ means they were spiritually starving; for God had taken them to the ‘ground’. There was no spiritual ‘food’ left in the old covenant. So, if you stay there, you too will starve spiritually. This means you will lose your soul.


Lam. 2:11. Mine eyes do fail with tears, my bowels are troubled, and my liver is poured upon the earth, for the destruction of the daughter of my people; because the children and the sucklings swoon in the streets of the city.

This one doing the crying here over the destruction of Jerusalem is Jesus. This is prophecy of when Jesus rode into Jerusalem on the donkey and wept over Jerusalem. There is where he pronounced the fall of this ‘city’ = old covenant. This shows his deep grief as he said my bowels are troubled, my liver is poured upon the earth for the destruction of the daughter of MY PEOPLE = THE JEWS, or those of the LAW. This is same kind of grief Paul showed he felt as he realized that God had done away with this law group.

The children ask their ‘mothers’ = that old covenant which bore them, where is corn = spiritual food, and wine = the spirit or joy of the Lord. See, there was none left there; for Jesus had pronounced them as being left ‘desolate’. If one is made ‘desolate’ by God, they have nothing left. So, when you go back to this ‘law’ covenant, you go into the desolate city and reject the city of life.

These were the two ‘trees’ in the Garden of Eden = the tree of the KNOWLEDGE of good and evil = that law; for by the law is the KNOWLEDGE OF SIN. It was holy in the concept; but it taught them what sin was. God wanted them free from this.

The ‘tree’ of life, is the Words of Grace = Life in Christ Jesus; the true Words of God which he brought.

See, in the Book of Rev. and Proverbs the tree of Life is called a ‘female’. So this shows that when the Bride speaks the same words Jesus spoke, they are the tree of Life. He said Come to me and DRINK and me and out of YOUR mouth should flow rivers of life. We are speaking the same words of Life He spoke. Paul spoke the same words Jesus taught; Peter did; James did; John did; so their words are the tree of life. Life is in Christ Jesus; not in keeping laws.


This is why Jesus told them he was the Lord of the Sabbath; he was showing that the true REST was He. He did not have to DO a certain thing to keep any Sabbath; he was the Sabbath. So when I have his Spirit in me, I have the Sabbath living continually inside me. I do not have to keep any laws for this to be true; it is automatic when one has the Holy Ghost. That is why the law keepers deny this Baptism of the Holy Ghost. They do not have the true Sabbath.


Now verse 14-Thy prophets have seen vain and foolish things for thee: and they have not discovered thine iniquity, to turn away thy captivity; but have seen for thee false burdens and causes of banishment.

Now, there is a lot of revelation to see in this verse. First, who is he talking to? Unless you know this, you will get no understanding of truth here. To find the answer, look at what is being said. He said this someone had been ‘banished from somewhere’. He said they were in captivity. He said they were under false burdens and causes for this banishment and that because of this, they could not turn away this captivity.


This goes back to Adam in the Garden of Eden. You will see that this goes all the way from that Garden experience to the present time. Adam = the human race. So, the human race was ‘banished’ or thrust out of that Garden state = immortal.

So, it is clear that this whole thing is about this event = of Adam being thrust out of Eden. That is what the whole thing with Israel represents. Hosea 5:9-Ephraim shall be DESOLATE in the day of rebuke: among the tribes of Israel have I made known that which shall surely be. So, see here is another prophecy that Ephraim = the 10 tribe nation of Israel, shall be DESOLATE. But he said he had made known the things, which shall be through these tribes. See they represent all things to be. What happened to them were only types and shadows of everything, which has been or will be. Prophecy covers the past, present, and future. The same words apply to it all. So, when you can discern and understand the pattern of God, it fits it all. The same words are alive; they are true for everyone who ever lived. The people on earth 1,000 years ago could read the Book and find the revelation for their day; I can read the same words and find the revelation for my day; that is how powerful the Words of God are. They fit everyone who ever lived.


So, this is true of the Garden of Eden and right on down to the end of the World.

Now, back verse 14-in Lam. He said their prophets had seen vain and foolish things for them; so what the prophets said to them were false. Now, this is not speaking of the true prophets who spoke the word of God; it was their false prophets; the ones they told to prophesy lies and not truth.

So, what is he speaking of, that was the vain and foolish things? The reason for their banishment or being thrust out of that Garden [of being placed into a mortal body]. You will find that all down through time, people have said it was one thing or another, the ‘whys’ of their being thrust out of God’s Holy presence, but see that they have been wrong reasons, and this is why they have not been able to turn the captivity away.

What is the ‘captivity’? Of course it is our being imprisoned in these bodies of ‘clay’. Our bodies are called a ‘prison’ in the Word. Jesus is the only one who can set us free. His truth is all that can do this for us.

Now, we have heard that they actually ate some kind of natural ‘food’ such as an apple. See how ‘foolish’ this thought is? How could eating an apple give them the knowledge of good and evil? How could this cause God to place them into a mortal body? How could an apple tree be the tree of KNOWLEDGE?

Then there came along this foolish doctrine that they had sex and this was the cause of their fall. It becomes so ridiculous that they called the Serpent a natural snake and said that Eve had sex with this reptile. Now, I am here to tell you, this is the most ridiculous thing anyone could possibly believe. I just do not see how any sensible, intelligent human beings could ever have believed such evil.

They say this snake was the father of Cain.

But I want to show you how easy it is to disprove this lie with the Word of God. You will find that Cain and Abel were not conceived until AFTER Adam and Eve were already thrust OUT of that Garden. See, the sin of ‘eating’ of the tree of Knowledge of good and evil was done inside that Garden; that is the reason God thrust them out. They did not have sex or children inside that Garden. They were immortal beings.

You will find that sex was the first blessing God pronounced. Gen. 1:28-And God blessed them, and God said unto them, be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth.

So, here is the first blessing- be fruitful and multiple. I myself only know of one way to do this. If you know of any other way, please tell me.

So, then we find that Adam and Eve did not have Cain until they were outside that Garden. Cain was conceived after they were in mortal bodies; outside that Garden. So, sex had not one thing to do with their sin.

This is another vain and foolish reason for their banishment. This will never turn away their captivity.

Until you find the true reason for the banishment, you cannot turn away that captivity. That is what he is saying here.

These things have to be proven by the written word. This is the most important thing to ever learn, that you must PROVE all things by the Written Word. In other words, if it is NOT Written, it is false. If you cannot read what you say and teach in the Book, it is lies.

Now, there is more than just the thing of Adam and the Garden here. There is also the thing of that old Covenant = the law, being thrust out of God’s plan for salvation and mankind. See that they follow the same pattern.

It is the Esau that God hated = the firstborn, which hated the birthright.

Those Jews of Jesus’ day said of Jesus, this is the heir, let’s kill him and the inheritance will be ours. They wanted to keep ruling forever by the LAW; but God said NO. They knew that Jesus was changing the times and seasons; they knew that he was taking away their place = the old covenant.


How did they know this? Many ways. One is when they brought the woman taken in adultery to him. They said, Master, Moses said for us to stone her; but what do YOU say? See they already knew by things he had said and done that he did not agree with the Law of Moses. Astonishing, isn’t it?

Now, Jesus was not going to break that law, for he had to fulfill it; but he also wanted to give this woman ‘grace’. So what did he do? He pricked each one of them in their hearts of their own, hidden sins, and told them which one of them did not have sin to cast the first stone at her. They could not do it.


So in his wisdom he showed them they had all sinned and come short of the glory of God and therefore were in no condition to stone her for her sins. So, he did not break that law, but he still gave this woman grace. They hated him for this. They set about to find a way to KILL him; even though their law said, Thou shall NOT kill.

Jesus told them one time, You claim to keep the law, yet you go about to kill me. They hated him for this. He showed them their hypocrisy. That is what truth does. That is why most people hate truth. Now, in order to ever get to truth and turn away the captivity, the true reason for their fall has to be found and straightened out.

It must be found and proven by the Written Word; it can not be guesswork or made up stuff. That is all that has been taught on this matter so far; just made up stuff. Lies.

Now, the Word shows that they ‘ate’ of a ‘tree’ which God had told Adam not to eat of. That is the sin. But what does it tell you? Nothing. Not by itself. One then must find out what this word ‘eat’ means here. It does not mean taking natural food into ones mouth, chewing it up and swallowing it. How do I know? Because Jesus himself said NOTHING WHICH ENTERS INTO THE MOUTH CAN DEFILE A MAN.

Now, this ‘eating’ which they did defiled them so much that God thrust them out of that Garden state of Immortality.

So, then we must find a Scriptural meaning of the Word ‘eat’. Jesus said to ‘eat’ his body. So then it has to mean to come to understand words. That is the eating he spoke of. We must read, and understand Jesus’ Words. So to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, one would have to take into their mind some ‘words’.

It is self-explanatory when it said this is a tree of KNOWLEDGE. The question is what kind of KNOWLEDGE. In this case the thing prevalent is the mixture of good and evil. This is what God hates. It must be ALL good. It cannot have the mixture with evil. Jesus said a little leaven leaveneth the whole.


So, one wrong word changes the whole thing. When they took on a carnal mind and mixed a few lies in with truth it changed the whole thing.

Adam became carnal minded. He became lifted up in pride. He wanted to be God. That is what he was tempted with. James said one sins when he is drawn away with his own lust, so Adam was drawn away with this lust to be lifted above God. The word is full of this. It is in Ezek. 28.

Paul said to be carnally minded is DEATH. God told Adam the day you eat of this tree, you will DIE. So he became carnally minded. Paul said the law gives the KNOWLEDGE of sin. So, the carnal mind is to believe that one becomes holy and righteous by keeping laws. God said it is a Spirit.

Jesus showed that He was life; that he was resurrection; that he was Rest; that he was redemption; that he was the Words of life. Jesus received the Holy Ghost at his water Baptism. This Holy Spirit is the way of righteousness. Jesus was Holy because he had this Holy Spirit of God in him. He did not become Holy by keeping laws. He only kept them because God had said they could not pass away until all be fulfilled. Jesus kept them so he could take them out of the way and offer everyone GRACE.


But if you rebel, as Adam did, and refuse to accept that the only way to righteousness is to have the Holy Ghost; that it can not come by keeping laws = your own works, then you will do as Adam and be thrust out of his holy presence eternally.

If you insist on staying in that old covenant of laws, you will be lost; for God has already rejected that covenant.

Then you are saying, as Adam did, that you can be God; you can be holy by your own works; you do not need to humble yourself and let Jesus fill you with his Spirit. This Holy Spirit is the only way to be holy and righteousness. You cannot become righteous by ‘keeping laws’.

This becomes self-worship. It is lifting yourself up in pride. This is all the sins of Adam, he was lifted up in pride, he wanted to be his own God, he said I will set my throne about the stars of God, I will be like the most high. Jesus said I do always the things that please my Father.

Adam said I can do all things by myself. Jesus said I can of my own self do NOTHING.

Satan tempted Jesus to worship him, offered him all the kingdoms of the world if he would bow down and worship Satan. See here this love of the world connected with Satan worship? Love not the world and the things of the World; if you love the world, the love of the Father is not in you.

So, Adam was tempted to worship himself, and he tempted Eve into the same thing. He told her they would not die. See, God had told Adam this thing BEFORE He created Eve, So Eve had not actually heard what God said; she only got it from Adam. So, she did not truly know what God had said; she listened to the one God had told, which was Adam.

He lied to her and deceived her. But when she saw it was wrong, she repented. Adam never repented.

Job 31: 33. If I covered my transgressions as Adam, by hiding mine iniquity in my bosom:

See this thing of hiding his iniquity proves Adam never repented. Also the fact of it still being held against him even as far down as Paul writing Romans, it still shows he is guilty; not forgiven.

Three prophets said, Thy WORDS were found and I did EAT them proves that this eating is in reading and understanding the Word of God. It has not one thing to do with eating natural food for the stomach; nor any other natural thing. Jesus said we must EAT his flesh to have eternal life. Now this flesh could not mean his natural, human body. Both false doctrines, which dominate the entire church world, the trinity lie and the Jesus only lie, both build on the misunderstood meaning of this verse. His FLESH is His Word. So when it said the word became flesh, it means spiritual food = words. His words are spirit and they are life. His words are this flesh which we must eat. So it was words they ate in that Garden.


By: Jo Smith




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