~~ A Woman shall compass a man ~~
Jer 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.
Compass, from Jer. 31: 22 --05437 (Strongs): 1) to turn, turn about or around or aside or back or towards, go about or around, surround, encircle, change direction
1a1) to turn, turn about, be brought round, change
1a2) to march or walk around, go partly around, circle about,
skirt, make a round, make a circuit, go about to, surround,
encompass ; 1c) (Piel) to turn about, change, transform ; 1d1) to encompass, surround
1e1) to turn, cause to turn, turn back, reverse, bring over, turn into, bring round
Help: #05826 (Strongs): to surround, i.e. protect or aid, Help, succour. primitive root; TWOT - 1598;
To hedge about, i.e. protect; defend.
Meet: Strongs 05826: ) help, succour
Succourer: 4368 // prostativ // prostatis // pros-tat'-is //
AV - succourer 1; 1
1) a woman set over others
2) a female guardian, protectress, patroness, caring for the affairs
of others and aiding them with her resources
from a derivative of 4291 ; n f :4291 // proisyhmi // proistemi // pro-is'-tay-mee //
from 4253 and 2476 ; TDNT - 6:700,*; v
AV - rule 5, maintain 2, be over 1; 8
) to set or place before 4253 // pro // pro // pro //
AV - before 44, above 2, above ... 1) before
1a) to set over ; 1b) to be over, to superintend, preside over
1c) to be a protector or guardian ; 1c1) to give aid
1d) to care for, give attention to
2476 :a prolonged form of a primary // staw // stao // stah'-o // (of the same
meaning, and used for it in certain tenses); TDNT - 7:638,1082; v
AV - stand 116, set 11, establish 5, stand still 4, stand by 3,
misc 17, vr stand 2; 158
1) to cause or make to stand, to place, put, set
1a) to bid to stand by, [set up]
1a1) in the presence of others, in the midst, before judges,
before members of the Sanhedrin;
1a2) to place ;1b) to make firm, fix establish
1b1) to cause a person or a thing to keep his or its place
1b2) to stand, be kept intact (of family, a kingdom), to escape
in safety ; 1b3) to establish a thing, cause it to stand
1b31) to uphold or sustain the authority or force of anything
1c) to set or place in a balance ; 1c1) to weigh: money to one (because in very early times before
the introduction of coinage, the metals used to be weighed)
2) to stand ; 2a) to stand by or near ; 2a1) to stop, stand still, to stand immovable, stand firm
2a1a) of the foundation of a building ; 2b) to stand ; 2b1) continue safe and sound, stand unharmed, to stand ready or prepared ; 2b2) to be of a steadfast mind ; 2b3) of quality, one who does not hesitate, does not waiver
Now that is a lot of stuff from Strong’s dictionary of Scripture words. But it proves without a doubt that COMPASS, HELP, (FROM Genesis 2, and meet, FROM Genesis 2, and succourer, from Romans 16:2, (concerning Phoebe), all mean the very same thing. You may have trouble following what I have pasted here, but if you run the same references in a Strongs, you will see that compass, help, (as in help meet) and meet, (as in help meet) and succour, (which is one of the meanings of help meet and compass, then it refers to Phoebe, all have the very same meaning!
Notice that one meaning which is used with each of these words is to surround, to establish, or help to stand, to uphold and to be above, to make firm, to rule, fix establish or to cause a person or a thing to keep his or its place. It means to be set over or before. To be a protector or guardian. Succourer means a woman set over others. Notice one meaning of ‘compass’ is to reverse and to transform and to turn back.
Now all of this is a powerful and hidden truth, which the world has totally missed. Therefore the woman’s place or right in God and life, has been totally destroyed by wicked men with false teachings. The purpose for Eve has been totally lied against and told in error.
A woman shall compass a men. God said, Jer 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.
Who was God speaking to here? I know you will probably not see this, but he was speaking to Adam. Adam was the king or head over the earth’s kingdom. So the earth and all its people, together, is considered a FEMALE to God. God’s kingdom, of Spirit, is the male. Man’s kingdom, of flesh, is the female. A kingdom on earth is called a woman. God is speaking here to Adam and his kingdom. He said how long will you go about, oh you backsliding daughter? The LORD hath created a NEW THING in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.
Now why is this connected with the backsliding daughter, Babylon, or Israel? Why would God say, how long will you go about, oh you backslider? I have made a new thing, so now there is no reason for you to continue with your backsliding. What is the new thing? A HELP MEET. A woman set over this backsliding man, to cause him to turn back to God, to reverse his actions, to be reconciled to God. She was to aid him, succour him, protect him and transform him. All of this is part of the meaning of COMPASS, HELP MEET, AND SUCCOUR.
Was Adam glad to have this helpmeet? Not one single bit. Adam wanted no part of being reconciled to God, for he had set his heart as the heart of God. He had said, I am God. I sit in the seat of God. But God had said to him, you are just a man. So, in his love for Adam, God made him a help meet, to help and try to turn Adam back to God. When God said, It is not good that the man should be alone, He was speaking of the fact that Adam had already put iniquity in his heart, by saying, I am God.
Notice that not one word is mentioned in any of these meanings of these words, as to meaning something for Adam’s pleasure, or sex, or someone to just help him do his work. It had not one thing to do with any of those carnal things. Eve’s creation was solely for a spiritual purpose. But Adam rejected her and this means of reconciliation to God. So, what was the result of this? Some very astonishing things are revealed in Scripture, which is hidden to the carnal mind. Only a Spiritual mind will ever glean the secrets of God from Scripture. So let’s take a deeper look into this chapter in Jeremiah.
Jer 31:1 At the same time, saith the LORD, will I be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:2 Thus saith the LORD, The people which were left of the sword found grace in the wilderness; even Israel, when I went to cause him to rest.
Arriving at knowledge of what went on in the lives of Adam and Eve and their children, from many different Scriptures, reveals that Adam and Cain ruled over that world in harshness and evil. They brought that entire society into bondage and ruled over them with an iron hand, the LAW. They killed any and all who rebelled against their rule and those who refused to worship them. Adam coveted God’s place as the one to be worshipped. He set up worship, church style, in honour to Adam and Cain. He set up holidays as worship to himself and Cain. That is exactly where all this Xmess and Easter junk came from.
They martyred many of those saints who followed Eve and Abel, in worshipping the true and living God. The above verse refers back to those who escaped from their slaughter. These came into Grace and were set free from that bondage of LAW. They found grace in the wilderness which God brought them into.
Jer 31:3 The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Jer 31:4 Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel: thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, and shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry.
Since Eve is the one who turned back to serving the true and Living God, she is now the head over the kingdom of God’s people. It is Eve who is being spoken to in these two verses. Notice the words, ‘of old’. This refers back to the other side of the flood. So this woman, as representative of God’s kingdom on earth, was the one God appeared to and said, I have loved thee with an everlasting love, therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. What is He speaking of when he said, I will again build you and you shall be built, O virgin of Israel?
Adam is not the virgin, for he had become totally rebellious to God. Eve is the virgin to God. She is the one God loved with this everlasting love. It is HER seed, which destroyed that head of the serpent, Adam. What is he referring to when he said you shall again be adorned with thy TABRETS? You must find the answer to these things in Scripture. So here is the interpreting Scripture: Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Yes, it was the kingdom of Adam which had the fine instruments prepared in him. See that this anointed cherub had been in the Garden of Eden and was perfect in all his ways from the day he was CREATED until iniquity was found in him. This is Adam. So it was to Adam’s kingdom, under the spiritual leadership of Eve, that God spoke the above prophecy to. He told her, You will again be adorned as you were at the beginning of your glory. It is speaking of the glorified Kingdom of Christ, which is to be again back in the original glory, of God’s likeness.
Jer 31:8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither. Jer 31:9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
Who is the one which is said to bear children to God? It is Eve. She is the one who was saved in childbearing. It is spiritual childbearing, not natural childbirth. She is the one who is the MOTHER of all living. It is her children, the spiritual people. They are the ones who came with weeping and supplications in repentance to God. It is not the man’s or the serpents seed. It is the woman’s seed who repented and found grace in the wilderness. They are the ones who will be built again and adorned with the original glory of sons of God. Notice that he caused them to walk by the rivers of waters, in a straight way. This is the only way to eternal life. It is those waters of the River of God. It shall be in you, a River of water of life.
Jer 31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock. 31:11 For the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he. 31:12 Therefore they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow together to the goodness of the LORD, for wheat, and for wine, and for oil, and for the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all. Jer 31:13 Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, both young men and old together: for I will turn their mourning into joy, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow.
God is speaking here of the kingdom over which Abel and Eve ministered. They are God’s firstborn. He uses Ephraim as a type of this. Most of the time, the person used in any passage of Scripture is only a representative of the deeper meaning hidden here. This time it is the kingdom of Grace, under Abel and Eve. They were certainly God’s firstborn. Who were they redeemed from? Adam and Cain. Adam and Cain were the ones who were stronger than Abel and Eve. They were both murdered for their stand against Adamism.
The next verse speaks of the glory of this Grace kingdom, when it is altogether at the end of the world. All of the children of God, from Eve on down, will be together in this glory and will never have to sorrow any more. What was their great sorrow? It was the lose of their family and the burdens which were placed upon them and their great tribulation. They rejoice in the dance.
This was fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost and since then, to those who are filled with the Holy Ghost. We rejoice in the holy dance of the Spirit. God turned their mourning into joy. It is speaking of the tribulation of all the saints of God, beginning with the murder of Abel and the horrible persecutions of Eve and her righteous children.
Jer 31:15 Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not. 31:16 Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy. 31:17 And there is hope in thine end, saith the LORD, that thy children shall come again to their own border.
I know the above verses apply to the slaughter of the babies, at the time of the birth of Jesus, but it has a deeper meaning, which I have just seen recently. The first application of this scripture refers to the slaughter of Eve’s children. Yes, this is the deep revelation hidden here. All of the people who followed Eve and her righteous children were murdered by those who followed Adam and Cain. This is revealed by the murder of Abel.
But that is just a sampling bit of information, just as the acts of the Apostles is only a sampling of what all that early church accomplished. The world could not hold the books, if everything had been told. In Scripture, we are only given a sampling of all that happened. This is the very reason that at the time of the flood, there was only one righteous man left from all the innumerable host of people who had lived from Adam and Eve. Only one family was left on this earth which was serving the true God.
The others who followed God had been murdered by Adam and his evil followers. The repeat of this has been demonstrated all down through the ages, as Satan sent his evil workers to murder God’s children. Even right now, only a very few could be found who are serving the true God in righteousness. The true people of God are being murdered all over this world. So, this is to Eve. It is Eve weeping for her children who were murdered as was Abel. But see, God told her to refrain thy voice from weeping for thy work shall be rewarded and your children will come again from the land of the enemy back to their own border.
All of God’s children, from Eve and Abel on down, will be brought back into the glory with which God had first endowed them. They will be resurrected back to the image and glory of God, to live eternally, with our holy Mother of all living, Eve! Praise God for revealing this woman’s true glory and love.
Jer 31:18 I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the LORD my God. Jer 31:19 Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.
If you doubt that this is speaking of the kingdom of Adam, on the other side of the flood, read the above verses. “I was ashamed and confounded, because I did bear the REPROACH of my YOUTH.”
Youth of man, always refers back to the other side of the flood. This is one of the secret keys to understanding the depth of Scripture. See this is about the ones in Adam’s kingdom, who heeded the message of Eve and Abel, then Seth, and repented of their sins and turned back to God.
Then they were murdered by the evil followers of Adam, who refused to repent. See, it said, AFTER I was INSTRUCTED. Who instructed them? It was Eve, Abel, and Seth. Her message is revealed all through Scripture. It has just been hidden under false teachings. But now God is revealing this great woman’s ministry and prophecies.
Jer 31:20 Is Ephraim my dear son? is he a pleasant child? for since I spake against him, I do earnestly remember him still: therefore my bowels are troubled for him; I will surely have mercy upon him, saith the LORD.
Again, I remind you that Ephraim here, represents the kingdom of Adam. What is God speaking about, “since I spake against him?” He is speaking about the time He said, the end of all flesh is come before me. God had spoken of destroying ALL OF MANKIND. But since God loved mankind so much, his ‘bowels’ was troubled for him. God said I will surely have mercy upon him. This is how and why God saved Noah and his family. He saw the coming of Jesus and Grace and mercy was extended to MAN, or Ephraim.
Jer 31:21 Set thee up waymarks, make thee high heaps: set thine heart toward the highway, even the way which thou wentest: turn again, O virgin of Israel, turn again to these thy cities.
Here God is again pleading with the ones who are virgins to God, to turn from sin and back to God and righteousness. THEN.. He said: Jer 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.
God speaks here of the coming of Jesus Christ. He is also speaking of bringing again the purpose for Eve. He is showing that the work of Eve will yet be accomplished and she will turn Man back to God. Jesus set this in motion with the anointing of Mary to carry the message of the resurrection to his disciples.
But it was already set in motion by Mary and Elizabeth and the prophecies they gave out. It was these women who had borne and raised those great men of God, Jesus and John. They fulfilled the role of Eve in turning men back to God and truth. A woman did this. She compassed the man and succoured him and brought him back into fellowship with his God.
This is fully manifested in the great lady minister, Phoebe, and the woman at the well. This woman of God was highly recommended by the great apostle, Paul. So let no one try to tear her work down. It is part of the Written Word of God. So be very careful of what you say against her and all the other women of God, who became true help meets.
Did you realize that ‘help meet’ is only mentioned twice in all the Word of God? Eve is the only person in all God’s word said to be a help meet. So if anyone gets reconciled to God, it has to come through this women, EVE. It will be through the ministry she has already performed.
Without Eve, not one single human being would exist today. If she had not turned enough people back to the true God, before that flood, Noah would not have known the truth and would have been destroyed also! Oh, I know this will be much disputed. But I know that God has revealed it in his word. So, backbite this truth all you wish. It will only damn your soul, as was all those in the flood.
Jer 31:23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; As yet they shall use this speech in the land of Judah and in the cities thereof, when I shall bring again their captivity; The LORD bless thee, O habitation of justice, and mountain of holiness.
God is speaking here of the salvation which came by Jesus. This is when he returned their captivity and set the captives free. It included everyone who repented on the other side of the flood. That kingdom, under Eve, is that habitation of justice and the mountain, or nation of holiness. This is why the last time Eve is named in Scripture, she is shown to be the true example of women of God, living in holiness and sobriety, bearing children to God.
Jer 31:24 And there shall dwell in Judah itself, and in all the cities thereof together, husbandmen, and they that go forth with flocks. Jer 31:25 For I have satiated the weary soul, and I have replenished every sorrowful soul.
This is prophecy of the NT Church with her ministers feeding the flock of God. He has satisfied the ones who were sorrowful for their sins and repented.
Jer 31:26 Upon this I awaked, and beheld; and my sleep was sweet unto me.
That is the resurrection. Awake, in Scripture, shows resurrection. Jesus awaked. Eve Awaked and in them all of the true Christians awake and their sleep, (in Jesus) was sweet, as they rested in the promise to be raised back to eternal life.
So 7:9 And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine for my beloved, that goeth down sweetly, causing the lips of those that are asleep to speak.
The roof of his mouth is like the best wine, going down sweetly and causing the lips of those who are asleep in Jesus to awake and speak. Their rest or sleep was sweet, for they rested in hope that he who promised would keep that promise and bring them back to their own border again.
By: Jo Smith ~~~ Feb. 5, 2008
From: Isaiah
Sent: 2/7/2008 1:21 AM
This was taken from the above message.
2a1) to stop, stand still, to stand immovable, stand firm
2a1a) of the foundation of a building ; 2b) to stand ; 2b1) continue safe and sound, stand unharmed, to stand ready or prepared ; 2b2) to be of a steadfast mind ; 2b3) of quality, one who does not hesitate, does not waiver
Do you know what I see from this meaning of the word Succourer?
From what I am seeing is that Phobe was teaching the same thing as the apostles taught and also that Eve was doing the same and neither could be stopped and that they both were immovable and standing firm and ready and prepared to teach this gospel and they both did not waiver. They did not waiver, because they were on the right foundation and that foundati0on was
Ephesians 2
2:20 - And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
This was the foundation from the beginning.
For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. That had to be the foundation from the beginning
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
This was the fondation that was laid in the beginning and I believe that this is what Eve, Able and Seth were teaching.
For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
This has been going on since the beginning and they were suffering there as the apostles were for teaching this great gospel.
Great message Joie.
You are so right, Isaiah. And thanks a lot for this great addition of understanding on this wonderful, and hidden secret.
I also saw the thing of her being steadfast and unmovable or not waivering last night, when I read the message agt 2:am.
I thought of how James said not to waiver, for if one waivers he is like the restless waves which can never rest.
Jesus gives us rest to our souls, no matter what we may be suffering on the surface.
This is exactly how Eve and Abel were living. They had unwaivering faith in the Beginning, which is the true foundation, Jesus Christ.
Yes, Larry. They were preaching the true foundation, Jesus Christ. Adam and Cain had turned FROM the true foundation, and set up a rotten foundation of sand, which was saying that Adam was God and Cain was his prophet.
Guess what? God just gave me that part about Cain being his prophet right now as I write.
Then he showed me that is exactly why he showed this thing when he set Moses up as God to Pharaoh and Aaron as Moses' prophet.
It shows what Adam did as he said, I am God. He then set Cain up as his prophet. Cain was going out and seeking those who refused this 'new god' and killing them.
My, such glory, as we dig deeper and deeper into God's Holy Word.
From: Freeborn551
Sent: 6/7/2008 8:19 PM
Sometimes the things which God does in my life amaze me and astonish me. This is one of them. For a few weeks or days, I have felt I should write a message on, A woman shall compass a man.
A message was in my mind about this subject, but as I had so much else going on, I did not try to write anything. As I have been studying on those men before and after the flood for two days, I kept seeing something.
I kept seeing a deeper thing on something God revealed to me a good while ago. That all flesh is to God as FEMALE. The Spirit is as MALE.
Now I know this is true spiritual revelation and has to be used properly to rightly interpret God's Word.
But since man has totally ignored studing God's Word, in their ministries, they have gotten nothing deep to teach anyone. So they all remain in ignorance and darkness.
Now as I was studying on this thing of passing over the flood, I was seeing that the first kingdom, Adam's kingdom, on that other side of the flood, being first created by God, being first made to last forever, were considered, both women and men, as ONE, were consided to be a MALE kingdom, or one with the life giving power. (their children inherited this ability to live long lives.)
Now I can see clearly that the kingdom which came up on this side of the flood was then, a FEMALE kingdom. Both men and women, as ONE, are considered to be FLESH, OR FEMALE TO GOD. (They were now in a body of dust or this frail form, we are now in and cannot live for long years.)
They are without a Spirit or eternal life. They must now be GIVEN a seed of LIFE, in order to GROW A SPIRITUL CHILD IN THEIR SPIRITUAL WOMB.
Even Jesus Christ was of this sort. See then, that even the men, must be a 'woman with child', in order to ever produce a son of God, and thereby, have ETERNAL LIFE. So they are FEMALE, to God.
Therefore, this entire kingdom of human flesh is a FEMALE KINGDOM. Jesus Christ was part of this female kingdom.
I know some folks really fell out with me over this revelation, but it is CERTAIN.
This is such revelation, that it needs to be a new message of its own. I shall prepare it later, but for now, I am putting it here, because I want to send this message back to the top.
I want to put these words down as I can remember them right now. I had forgotten that I had already written a message, called, A Woman shall Compass a man.
Can you imagine that? Shows God wanted me to deal with this message some more.
Yes, I had forgotten this message, completely, and felt I should write one about this very thing. Just now, as I came to my table where I have my message stacked, THIS MESSAGE WAS ON THE VERY TOP.
I looked down at it and was astonished at it. So I sat down and read it. I had forgotten its contents completely. I felt it would help me in the one I am working on now, After the flood.
It helps prove what I was seeing ...that the kingdom we are in now, flesh, is the FEMALE kingdom. that is totally spiritually correct.
I have been thinking a long time that those people in the Ark somehow are the fulfillment of God putting Adam to sleep and taking a 'rib' out of him, closing up the FLESH instead, and making a WOMAN.
This proves it. He took a 'rib' out of that MALE kingdom, and made a FEMALE kingdom.
I know almost no one will be able to see this. But it is for the spiritual minded.
That is why the longevity of that first kingdom was so cut back in those born after the flood.
They had lost that original life power. When I finish the one I am on now, you can see proof of this.
But for now, study this message again and ask for spiritual revelation.
JO
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