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Jesus, son of Joseph


Matthew 1:16

and Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

(Jesus was born of the SUBJECT of the above sentence, Joseph.  He was born of these two people.)


Matthew 1:20

But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

(Joseph is identified as being from the house of David;  son of David.  We know Jesus was from David, or Judah.  Yet Mary, his mother, is never identified as being from David.  As I taught in another message, in order for Jesus to be qualified to be a priest, he had to be also from the family of Levi.  This proves that Mary is the one from Levi.)


Luke 1:27

to a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.

(Here is another witness, stating that Joseph is the one from the house of David. )


Here is the third witness proving that it is JOSEPH which was from the house of David.  This third witness establishes this as God’s truth.  Not one time is Mary identified as being from David.)


Luke 3:23

And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

(People are ‘sloppy’ in their reading of the Word of God.  Do not be so.  This verse says that Jesus WAS the son of Joseph.  B E I N G,  means it was this way.  Being means one is as it states.  The ‘as was supposed’ merely states that this is how the people of their day thought it was.  The word  B E I N G  means it was as they supposed it to be.  Stop being sloppy with reading God’s word.  He requires us to believe and know the TRUTH.

In the English language, in order to understand a statement correctly, (if you cannot do so otherwise),  read it without the words in praenthesize .  So it would be right to read it thus:  Jesus began to be about thirty years of age, being the son of Joseph.  This does not in any way change the meaning of the above statement.  It makes it clear what it is saying.


Luke 4:22

And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph’s son?


John 1:45

Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.


John 6:42

And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?


Here we have more than the required three witnesses, proving that Jesus was indeed the son of Joseph.  This is how he came from the seed of David.  The mother does not pass the ‘seed’ into the child;  the father does.


If you say, well, he was only the step-son of Joseph, you do lie, adding to God’s word.  If you say, he was his son merely because Joseph was there and raised him.  Then you again are lying, adding to God’s word.  God did NOT SAY ANY OF THAT.


Philip declared that Jesus was the son of Joseph.  Do you think that Philip was lying?  Or did not know as much as you do?  Then why is his words recorded in Scripture, and not corrected?  Think on this.  Stop believing the lies you have always heard.


Why is it that both genealogies, the one in Mat and the one in Luke, both go through Joseph and not Mary?  (Let me make it very clear here that I AM NOT DENYING THE VIRGIN BIRTH.  I know it was virgin birth, but that does not mean that God put God-seed into Mary.  It means the Holy Ghost put the seed of JOSEPH into Mary.  I said that and I say it again:   THE HOLY GHOST PUT THE SEED OF JOSEPH INTO MARY.)  If not, this word is LYING TO US.  So which do you believe?


Ok, let’s give some more proof:

Matthew 1:1

The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.


One statement saying that Jesus was the son of DAVID, and the son of Abraham.  Yet Mary is not listed as being from the tribe of David.  Show it to me if you know of one place where this being son of David came through Mary.


Matthew 9:27

And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou Son of David, have mercy on us.


Now do you honestly think that these people, who knew Jesus personally, thought he was GOD?  Not for one minute.  These men called him SON OF DAVID.


How could God be son of David?  It is such a foolish and deadly doctrine.


Matthew 12:23

And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?


ALL,  all the people said, this is the son of David.  And you all know more than they did?  Why is this not corrected if it is not true?


Matthew 15:22

And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil


Here is another witness that Jesus is the son of David.


Matthew 20:30

And, behold, two blind men sitting by the way side, when they heard that Jesus passed by, cried out, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou Son of David.


You people, which is all of you, saying that Jesus is God, or God the son, please show me how God is the son of David!


Matthew 20:31

And the multitude rebuked them, because they should hold their peace: but they cried the more, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou Son of David.


Matthew 21:9

And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.


Here a whole multitude calls Jesus SON OF DAVID.  They surely did not believe what the bastard churches of today believe, now did they?  So which one do you think had it right?  Scripture is going to solidly prove which one had it right.  In this message I will fully prove that Jesus was a human man, just like us, the son of David according to the flesh.  And this came about through his Daddy, Joseph.  Mary is never told to be of the tribe of David.


And if she was, and Joseph is not the father of Jesus, then Jesus had no right to be a PRIEST.  Scripture solidly proves that Jesus was a priest.  He was both from the King tribe and the priest tribe.


Matthew 21:15

And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the Son of David; they were sore displeased,


Those old religious hypocrites hated this truth, as you religious hypocrites do today.  Sure, you hate what this message is declaring and it is pure Scripture.


Matthew 22:41-43Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,

Matthew 22:45

If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

Mark 10:47

And when he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to cry out, and say, Jesus, thou Son of David, have mercy on me.

Mark 10:48

And many charged him that he should hold his peace: but he cried the more a great deal, Thou Son of David, have mercy on me.

Luke 1:32

He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Now the above verse was  spoken by an angel of God, not the people.  So if that is wrong, we must just forget the Scriptures, for it surely would not be trust-worthy.


Notice also, that Jesus was to be called the son of the highest and also son of David.  So it shows the spiritual birth and the natural birth.  It is just the same as we are….after we receive salvation, we are called son of the highest or sons of God.


Luke 1:69

and hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

John 7:42

Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

Acts 13: 22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfill all my will. 

23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:


This is God’s word saying that Jesus came from the seed of David, a MAN.  This man’s seed, David.  Did God come from the  seed of a man,  David?  How foolish that doctrine is.


Romans 1:3

concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;


Here is another powerful verse declaring that Jesus was made of the SEED OF DAVID according to the flesh. So it was spiritual that Jesus was son of God.  It was not physical in the womb of Mary.  It was spiritual birth, as God gave to Jesus the HOLY GHOST.


Here is another great witness of this truth: 

 2 Timothy 2:8

Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

(So, you think God was dead and had to be raised from the Dead?….God?  Then who raised this dead god up?)


Revelation 5:5

And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.



Revelation 22:16

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


Now that is Jesus himself speaking and saying I am offspring of David.  God is offspring of David?  Wow, how did such a false doctrine take over this whole world?  Do none of you ever read the Word of God?  Now I am telling you all, this applies to the false TRINITY DOCTRINE, as well as the false Jesus-only doctrine.  Both of you claim that Jesus was God.  You say Mary had a baby god.  And this god was of the seed of a man, David.  Trinity says he is second person of God or God the son, when this term is not one time named in any scripture.

Jesus-only folks declare that God himself left heaven and got into Mary and became a baby boy who later was murdered by man. And then this dead god raised himself up from the dead.


I am telling you all,  THAT IS FOOLISH, WILDLY FOOLISH.  Hate me if you must, but I am telling you the solid truth.  No preacher out there is telling you the truth.  No church out there is telling you the truth and this message PROVES IT.  If you cannot, and will not listen to this much Scripture, you are bastards and not sons of God.


And here is the prophesy that Jesus would be from the ROOT or stem of the family of David:


Isaiah 11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

11 

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse,
and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:


This explains how Jesus is from the root of David, the same thing as the stem of Jesse, the father of David.


So now, was God out of the stem of Jesse?  You who believe the lie that Jesus was God in flesh, or God the son, or God at all, best stop what you are doing every day, and do some studying of the Word of God and stop believing and teaching these lies.


How could God come from the stem of Jesse, the loins of David?  And how did Mary pass seed of a man into Jesus?  The mother does not do that.  Surely someone of you must know this?


So  this message solidly proves that Jesus was a man, and not a god.  Jesus was the son of Joseph, from David and Jesse, or else this MANY VERSES in the WORD OF GOD IS LYING TO US.


Whom will you stand before God believing?…. that bastard preacher you pay, or this pure word of God?  You best take this to heart and do some obeying of Jesus…and STUDY.   SEARCH THE SCRIPTURE….STUDY TO SHEW YOURSELVES APPROVED TO GOD.


When you accept and believe the lies of your bastard church, you are not approved to God.


By:  Jo Smith….   …  … August 8, 2015



Jesus, son of Joseph


Matthew 1:16

and Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

(Jesus was born of the SUBJECT of the above sentence, Joseph.  He was born of these two people.)


Matthew 1:20

But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

(Joseph is identified as being from the house of David;  son of David.  We know Jesus was from David, or Judah.  Yet Mary, his mother, is never identified as being from David.  As I taught in another message, in order for Jesus to be qualified to be a priest, he had to be also from the family of Levi.  This proves that Mary is the one from Levi.)


Luke 1:27

to a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.

(Here is another witness, stating that Joseph is the one from the house of David. )


Here is the third witness proving that it is JOSEPH which was from the house of David.  This third witness establishes this as God’s truth.  Not one time is Mary identified as being from David.)


Luke 3:23

And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

(People are ‘sloppy’ in their reading of the Word of God.  Do not be so.  This verse says that Jesus WAS the son of Joseph.  B E I N G,  means it was this way.  Being means one is as it states.  The ‘as was supposed’ merely states that this is how the people of their day thought it was.  The word  B E I N G  means it was as they supposed it to be.  Stop being sloppy with reading God’s word.  He requires us to believe and know the TRUTH.

In the English language, in order to understand a statement correctly, (if you cannot do so otherwise),  read it without the words in praenthesize .  So it would be right to read it thus:  Jesus began to be about thirty years of age, being the son of Joseph.  This does not in any way change the meaning of the above statement.  It makes it clear what it is saying.


Luke 4:22

And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph’s son?


John 1:45

Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.


John 6:42

And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?


Here we have more than the required three witnesses, proving that Jesus was indeed the son of Joseph.  This is how he came from the seed of David.  The mother does not pass the ‘seed’ into the child;  the father does.


If you say, well, he was only the step-son of Joseph, you do lie, adding to God’s word.  If you say, he was his son merely because Joseph was there and raised him.  Then you again are lying, adding to God’s word.  God did NOT SAY ANY OF THAT.


Philip declared that Jesus was the son of Joseph.  Do you think that Philip was lying?  Or did not know as much as you do?  Then why is his words recorded in Scripture, and not corrected?  Think on this.  Stop believing the lies you have always heard.


Why is it that both genealogies, the one in Mat and the one in Luke, both go through Joseph and not Mary?  (Let me make it very clear here that I AM NOT DENYING THE VIRGIN BIRTH.  I know it was virgin birth, but that does not mean that God put God-seed into Mary.  It means the Holy Ghost put the seed of JOSEPH into Mary.  I said that and I say it again:   THE HOLY GHOST PUT THE SEED OF JOSEPH INTO MARY.)  If not, this word is LYING TO US.  So which do you believe?


Ok, let’s give some more proof:

Matthew 1:1

The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.


One statement saying that Jesus was the son of DAVID, and the son of Abraham.  Yet Mary is not listed as being from the tribe of David.  Show it to me if you know of one place where this being son of David came through Mary.


Matthew 9:27

And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou Son of David, have mercy on us.


Now do you honestly think that these people, who knew Jesus personally, thought he was GOD?  Not for one minute.  These men called him SON OF DAVID.


How could God be son of David?  It is such a foolish and deadly doctrine.


Matthew 12:23

And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?


ALL,  all the people said, this is the son of David.  And you all know more than they did?  Why is this not corrected if it is not true?


Matthew 15:22

And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil


Here is another witness that Jesus is the son of David.


Matthew 20:30

And, behold, two blind men sitting by the way side, when they heard that Jesus passed by, cried out, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou Son of David.


You people, which is all of you, saying that Jesus is God, or God the son, please show me how God is the son of David!


Matthew 20:31

And the multitude rebuked them, because they should hold their peace: but they cried the more, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou Son of David.


Matthew 21:9

And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the Son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.


Here a whole multitude calls Jesus SON OF DAVID.  They surely did not believe what the bastard churches of today believe, now did they?  So which one do you think had it right?  Scripture is going to solidly prove which one had it right.  In this message I will fully prove that Jesus was a human man, just like us, the son of David according to the flesh.  And this came about through his Daddy, Joseph.  Mary is never told to be of the tribe of David.


And if she was, and Joseph is not the father of Jesus, then Jesus had no right to be a PRIEST.  Scripture solidly proves that Jesus was a priest.  He was both from the King tribe and the priest tribe.


Matthew 21:15

And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the Son of David; they were sore displeased,


Those old religious hypocrites hated this truth, as you religious hypocrites do today.  Sure, you hate what this message is declaring and it is pure Scripture.


Matthew 22:41-43Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,

Matthew 22:45

If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

Mark 10:47

And when he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to cry out, and say, Jesus, thou Son of David, have mercy on me.

Mark 10:48

And many charged him that he should hold his peace: but he cried the more a great deal, Thou Son of David, have mercy on me.

Luke 1:32

He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Now the above verse was  spoken by an angel of God, not the people.  So if that is wrong, we must just forget the Scriptures, for it surely would not be trust-worthy.


Notice also, that Jesus was to be called the son of the highest and also son of David.  So it shows the spiritual birth and the natural birth.  It is just the same as we are….after we receive salvation, we are called son of the highest or sons of God.


Luke 1:69

and hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

John 7:42

Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

Acts 13: 22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfill all my will. 

23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:


This is God’s word saying that Jesus came from the seed of David, a MAN.  This man’s seed, David.  Did God come from the  seed of a man,  David?  How foolish that doctrine is.


Romans 1:3

concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;


Here is another powerful verse declaring that Jesus was made of the SEED OF DAVID according to the flesh. So it was spiritual that Jesus was son of God.  It was not physical in the womb of Mary.  It was spiritual birth, as God gave to Jesus the HOLY GHOST.


Here is another great witness of this truth: 

 2 Timothy 2:8

Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

(So, you think God was dead and had to be raised from the Dead?….God?  Then who raised this dead god up?)


Revelation 5:5

And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.



Revelation 22:16

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


Now that is Jesus himself speaking and saying I am offspring of David.  God is offspring of David?  Wow, how did such a false doctrine take over this whole world?  Do none of you ever read the Word of God?  Now I am telling you all, this applies to the false TRINITY DOCTRINE, as well as the false Jesus-only doctrine.  Both of you claim that Jesus was God.  You say Mary had a baby god.  And this god was of the seed of a man, David.  Trinity says he is second person of God or God the son, when this term is not one time named in any scripture.

Jesus-only folks declare that God himself left heaven and got into Mary and became a baby boy who later was murdered by man. And then this dead god raised himself up from the dead.


I am telling you all,  THAT IS FOOLISH, WILDLY FOOLISH.  Hate me if you must, but I am telling you the solid truth.  No preacher out there is telling you the truth.  No church out there is telling you the truth and this message PROVES IT.  If you cannot, and will not listen to this much Scripture, you are bastards and not sons of God.


And here is the prophesy that Jesus would be from the ROOT or stem of the family of David:


Isaiah 11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

11 

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse,
and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:


This explains how Jesus is from the root of David, the same thing as the stem of Jesse, the father of David.


So now, was God out of the stem of Jesse?  You who believe the lie that Jesus was God in flesh, or God the son, or God at all, best stop what you are doing every day, and do some studying of the Word of God and stop believing and teaching these lies.


How could God come from the stem of Jesse, the loins of David?  And how did Mary pass seed of a man into Jesus?  The mother does not do that.  Surely someone of you must know this?


So  this message solidly proves that Jesus was a man, and not a god.  Jesus was the son of Joseph, from David and Jesse, or else this MANY VERSES in the WORD OF GOD IS LYING TO US.


Whom will you stand before God believing?…. that bastard preacher you pay, or this pure word of God?  You best take this to heart and do some obeying of Jesus…and STUDY.   SEARCH THE SCRIPTURE….STUDY TO SHEW YOURSELVES APPROVED TO GOD.


When you accept and believe the lies of your bastard church, you are not approved to God.


By:  Jo Smith….   …  … August 8, 2015




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The time Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem, Mary said this when they found him: Luke 2:48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us?

behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
Do you suppose that Mary did not know who his father was? Was she lying here? Not for one minute. She knew that Joseph WAS the natural father of Jesus.The time Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem, Mary said this when they found him: Luke 2:48 And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us?

behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
Do you suppose that Mary did not know who his father was? Was she lying here? Not for one minute. She knew that Joseph WAS the natural father of Jesus.

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Acts 13: 21 And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years. 22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. 23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:
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 ... of this MAN'S SEED,... God raised up the Saviour, Jesus. ... Now someone please explain to us how this MAN'S SEED passed or was given from or through a WOMAN. ... THE WOMAN'S SEED is totally SPIRITUAL. This is FLESHLY. Rom 1:4....of the SEED OF DAVID, ACCORDING TO THE FLESH. ...so someone tell me, how did this MAN'S SEED PASS FROM ...MARY...INTO JESUS? JUST CANNOT BE THE RIGHT ANSWER. IT HAS TO BE FROM JOSEPH. NO ONE CAN DENY THIS AND BE TRUE TO THE WORD OF GOD.
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Betty Jo Cooper Smith The above message is FULL OF PERFECTLY QUOTED SCRIPTURE. It is not my words. It is God's word, saying that Jesus is the SON OF JOSEPH. Only a blind person can keep denying this.Betty Jo Cooper Smith The above message is FULL OF PERFECTLY QUOTED SCRIPTURE. It is not my words. It is God's word, saying that Jesus is the SON OF JOSEPH. Only a blind person can keep denying this.
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 I overlooked this verse when I did the message, but I knew it was in scripture, so I just now looked it up. Here it is; more PROOF that Jesus came from the loins of a MAN..... Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;>>>. there is NO WAY this could have been refering to Mary. women do not have the LOINS of a man. You all best wake up to what the word of God is TRULY TEACHING about the TRUE JESUS. he was not God. He was a man, made in all points like unto his brethren. Hebrews. look it up for yourself. I overlooked this verse when I did the message, but I knew it was in scripture, so I just now looked it up. Here it is; more PROOF that Jesus came from the loins of a MAN..... Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;>>>. there is NO WAY this could have been refering to Mary. women do not have the LOINS of a man. You all best wake up to what the word of God is TRULY TEACHING about the TRUE JESUS. he was not God. He was a man, made in all points like unto his brethren. Hebrews. look it up for yourself.
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